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DEAD IN THE WATER: Ex-ACU Prez Bob Haran cuts ties with Anna Gaines' org, calls recall of Phil Gordon "waste of time."

Fri May 02, 2008 at 03:01:17 PM

I just got off the horn with former New Yorker and Republican activist Bob Haran, who today has severed ties with Anna Gaines' group American Citizens United, which yesterday announced a drive to recall Phoenix Mayor Phil Gordon.

Haran, who was the group's President, said he never agreed with Gaines' idea of recalling Phil and characterized the effort as futile, considering Gordon's landslide reelection victory last fall. Indeed, the first the ex-Marine heard that the recall was a reality, was through the media, he explained. In his statement, he labels it a divisive issue, writing,

"I fear that if this recall makes it to the ballot based on the issue of immigration it will be like pouring gasoline on a fire that is already dividing people by their skin color and I want no part of it."

Haran said the original idea behind American Citizens United was to create an organization that would have nothing to do with the racists and neo-Nazis infiltrating the anti-illegal immigration movement. But he charged that the group, under Gaines' watch, was now allowing anyone into its ranks.

"She's not a bad person," he told me, praising her patriotism and courage. "Naive might be the right word."

Haran's statement is below. I think it pretty much speaks for itself. After this, can we all agree this recall effort is dead in the water?

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Contact: Bob Haran, May 2, 2008
bobharan2003@aol.com
www.Bob-Haran.info

Statement by Bob Haran, former President, American Citizens United.

As the President and the person that came up with the name, American Citizens United, and the author of it's mission statement, I do hereby sever any connection with the group of people attempting to recall Phoenix Mayor Phil Gordon, calling themselves "American Citizens United."

The original name of the organization was, "Arizona Patriots Supporting Enforcement of Immigration Laws," and was founded by Anna Gaines and the web site was www.azpseil.cloverpad.org

While the organization was still using the name "Arizona Patriots Supporting Enforcement of Immigration Laws," it was agreed that Anna Gaines would be the Chair and Chief Executive Officer and I would be the President and Chief Operating Officer.

I came up with the name "American Citizens United" on April 19, 2008 and Anna Gaines, as chairperson, approved the name change on April 20, 2008, I wrote the organizations mission statement, which Gaines approved after minor changes on April 21, 2008. The mission statement was published under "about us" by Gaines on the azpseil web site the next day and listed me as President of the American Citizens United.

Shortly after agreeing on the name change and mission statement, Ms. Gaines first touched on the subject of recalling Phoenix Mayor Gordon. I explained to her that it was more important for the American Citizens United to get organized and build a strong foundation and write a set of by-laws to govern ourselves before we attempted any project as large as recalling the mayor of Phoenix. I didn't see any point in resorting to a recall that not only would be extremely difficult to get on the ballot and close to impossible to win, given the fact that Gordon had just been re-elected with 77% of the vote and would be sure to be well financed in a recall election. In short I thought the idea of a recall was ill conceived and a waste of time and effort with little chance of success.

I'm no supporter of Phil Gordon, I think he has been trying to pander to some extent to both sides of the immigration issue. He doesn't want to look like a supporter of illegal immigration but he also doesn't want to alienate Hispanic voters and therefore he has really done nothing but attempt to obstruct the enforcement of immigration laws by the Sheriffs Office. Would that be a cause for a recall, maybe. Would a recall at this time be beneficial to the people of Phoenix or to the immigration control movement, absolutely not. The have a recall election centered on the immigration issue in a city that is over one third Hispanic is dangerously divisive to the community at large and irresponsible to say the least.

One of the reasons American Citizens United was formed was to turn the immigration debate around from becoming an issue of race. Both Anna Gains and myself have been disturbed by those opposed to enforcement of our immigration laws attempting to label anyone who is pro-enforcement as racist, and we have also been troubled by white racist trying to hitch-hike on the immigration issue to advance their racist agenda. We wanted to form an organization that not only advocated illegal immigration control but also opposed racism and turning the immigration issue into a brown versus white issue. I fear that if this recall makes it to the ballot based on the issue of immigration it will be like pouring gasoline on a fire that is already dividing people by their skin color and I want no part of it.

The effort to recall Mayor Gordon by Anna Gaines and her fellow travelers has not been well thought out and is just an impulsive action that cannot lead to anything positive and at best would just be a wasted effort and at worst it would further divide the people of Phoenix over the issue of immigration based on a their ancestry.

With all due respect for Anna Gaines' patriotism and courage, recalling the mayor of Phoenix is a bad idea.

The mayor of Phoenix may be showing a lack of leadership on the immigration issue, but those calling for his recall are showing even less.

BOB HARAN

For more on this story, please see: "Wing-nutty Hobbit lady Anna Gaines attempts recall of Mayor Phil Gordon;" and, "Patriots Border Alliance's neo-Nazi love-fest; and why Anna Gaines' recall of Mayor Phil Gordon is doomed."

23 Comments:

Deadman Walking says:

I agree with Bob. This is just going to end up making things worse. I see no way for them to be able to get this on the ballot, let alone actually get the Mayor out of office.

This whole issue of immigration has turned into a race situation and has been about battling color, and not just the color of the flag.

I am a strong supporter for enforcement of the law, including border security and immigration law, but I am about ready to ask for a sit down with the "pro-illegal immigration side", as some extreme groups call them, and see what I can do to help.

This battle has gone way beyond enforcement of the law and has now turned into direct attacks on people because of their color or heritage.

Two sides that stand strong on their beliefs but get mad at the other side for not believing the same way. Hmmm...

I believe that before you can truly stand up for what you believe in, you must understand, respect and know the feelings of your opposition as they to are standing up for what they believe in.

Kochise says:

Whoooo!!
Surprise! Surprise!!!
Not only is this recall effort "dead in the water", its actually deader than disco-Lol!

What does Steele have to say about all this? This is like music to my ears! Knowing that their "President" of their org actually agrees with the Champions of Freedom, that this recall effort is a fluke!!

Hail Victory!! Hail Freedom!!
Go Phil Gordon!!
Its time to fight crime that the Sheriff won't fight--FELONY WARRANTS.

maryis says:

Feathered: I wanted to clue you in on something strange I saw today. I went to the Tucson newspapers website looking for an obituary of a friend who just passed away.

On the home pages of both the Tucson Citizen and the Arizona Daily Star, there is a "movie" of Tent City with Sheriff Joe doing a 'commercial' about DUIs. Plus, you've got to see it to believe it...

Why the hell is he spending money to run these little moviolas in Pima county? Doesn't Pima county have their own sheriff????? Wonder what he is paying for this little foray into Tucson's online newspapers...

Q Street Underground says:

It is no surprise to watch these groups fall apart. Although not everyone who disagrees with the immigrants rights crowd is a racist, the racists are really the backbone of these groups, and anyone who isn't a hatemonger quickly realises that they don't belong.


They will keep factioning off and infighting, while those committed to protecting the rights of our societies most vurnerable members become increasingly organized. We will win this fight in Phoenix, just as we won in the South in the sixties.

Q Street Underground says:

It is no surprise to watch these groups fall apart. Although not everyone who disagrees with the immigrants rights crowd is a racist, the racists are really the backbone of these groups, and anyone who isn't a hatemonger quickly realises that they don't belong.


They will keep factioning off and infighting, while those committed to protecting the rights of our societies most vurnerable members become increasingly organized. We will win this fight in Phoenix, just as we won in the South in the sixties.

Jim Williams says:

Not only is the recall NOT a waste of time, it is very important and it will happen.The problem everyone has with it is that they all know that we are not a small extremist group. We are not a bunch of loose knit wack jobs on the fringe.We are educated, we are dedicated and we can withstand all of the obstacles that people throw at us.What scares them the most is that they all know we will not be deterred.They all know that when Phil is gone that Harris will be next and then people will begin to listen. They will see that the laws will be enforced and I believe this is what the bird and all of his readers fear the most.By reading all the porn in his paper I'm sure they all have something to fear from the law.

Deadman Walking says:

Jim Williams, are you not reading this article to? You state you are educated, and I am not saying that your not, but yet you say that, and I quote,

"They will see that the laws will be enforced and I believe this is what the bird and all of his readers fear the most.By reading all the porn in his paper I'm sure they all have something to fear from the law."

Well Jim are you not one of those same readers you are talking about above, or are you a special reader? Because it appears to me that you are reading this stuff also or you would have not been able to comment about it. Educated people would not make a bland comment like that against others when in fact they are doing the same thing.

Kochise says:

Jim Williams actually thinks everyone is a criminal:

"I'm sure they all have something to fear from the law."

We don't "FEAR" the law you fucking halfwit, we work with the law, and by doing so through neighborhood watch prgrams, coorporation and monthy meetings that my Mesa Police Chief George Gascon helds whenever a serious crime happens within the community--retard.
We don't have anything to fear except fear itself.
You're statements is well written in ignorance, not employed through "educated" analysis.

The thuggery tactics of Joe Arpaio is criminal itself by refusing to serve the thousands of felony warrants that currently plaques the valley!

The Phoenix PD has just busted a large drug dealing ring today--you moron!

This is exactly why your petty little group is faltering, is because of folks just like you!

jas wats says:

Kochise, you are a typical idiot that cannot disagree with someone without insulting them personally. Only a "retard" comments on an issue with "Oh yeah? well you're stupid" mentality. I figure your side is filled with people like you. Ignorant? I suppose you should know.

D.J. Racist Ryke says:

Right on Kochise. Most of us are indeed law abiding citzens and if you look into the natavists crowd, nearly all of them have some type of criminal offense, for example. Public Pisser Rick Galeener is notorious for indecent exposure to a minor.
He should be in jail for that et al, etc.

And Jim, what I already knew, was this recall effort was a disaster on your part from the get go. Your reputuation will also be affected by this, if you want to make yourself look pathetic, then by all means go for it.

To fans of the ever so lovely Krysten Sinema D-Phoenix is scheduled to speak on TV at 7:30am to talk about Sheriff Joe Arpaio and other issues. Tune in tomorrow morning if you are interested in what she has to say. I believe the Democratic Delegate airs on FOX10.

Anonymous says:

I'm sure Jim Williams sensitive feelings are hurt. Even though he's hopelessly reeling over the very fact that he knows he can't achieve his goals of recalling such a popular mayor.
Jim Williams may be ugly in person but he's certainly not a wise man either. I'm very skeptical of everything he does when it comes to something such as this.

The mayor will ride this out like its nothing. This is just a small call for attention to their new group name--American Citizens United.

Jim please take your medications and leave our mayor alone. Its corruptors like Joe Arpaio who we need to focus on getting rid of by the legal process of voting him out this November.

Spread the Word.

Californicate Arizona says:

By educated I think Jim meant he an hiz cusin Jethro jus dun gradeeated duh 6th grade.

Seriously anybody see the article at AZ Republic about the shootout that left 2 dead and 5 wounded? I wander if the shooters have unserved felony warrants for their arrest? If I am ever a victim of a crime and find out the perpetrator has an unserved warrant I will be calling Michael "the Fighting Ichabod" Manning to hold our dear sheriff responsible.

Democrat equals Communist says:

Bob Haran proves by the simple act of submitting this letter to the Turd,that he is a trator to the people that called him a friend. He has no integrity and is a coward.
He has made the motivation of those who are behind the recall that much stronger by this action.
Perhaps he can join the Turd and "DeadBeat Daddy" Dennis Gillman in a hot tub for one of their brainstorming sessions.

Anonymous says:
Anonymous says:

Actually I wanted my GOP neo-conservatives to look like this:

http://www.nbcs-web.org/hillbillys.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAPWGN5gJ4M

Cowboy Wayne says:

To the Feathered Bastard, there is an article published in the EVT concerning the health reports on Joe`s 3rd world jail system.

"Is (Sheriff) Joe Arpaio giving orders to deny or delay medical care to people? No but he's creating a culture where this sort of stuff is permitted."

http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/story/115427

Read Dr Wilcox`s risignation letter and statements.
Sheriff Joe is trying to fight a law that requires him to give yearly health inspection reports.

Just one of many reason why we need to oust this Sheriff.

Kochise says:

"You are a typical idiot who cannot disagree with someone without insulting them personally."

A "typical idiot" Jim, is someone such as yourself going about accusing someone of be a "criminal", that you know nothing or very little of. Go back and re-read your comments.
Who's the real idiot here?

And speaking of name calling, how do YOU-SIR, justify the racist rants spewed forth from the very same people you associate with? There isn't really much of a difference between American Citizen United and United for a Soveriegn America, they both work under the same banner of hate, excpet that they all have different names and continue to change their names frequently like its some sort of club house.

Jim Williams says:

OK deadman walking. I wouldn't pick up a copy of N T if it came with a cup of coffee. I do however read The Feathered Bastards columns on line to see what he is saying about Sheriff Joe and my friends.As I checked in to see if my comment had been posted I was happy to see that I am indeed correct about the mentality of the bird's followers.Name calling from kochise,threats about my reputation from D J Racist,Anonymous doesn't know me and yet calls me ugly and unwise.Glad I checked in. Everyone play nice now if you can ok.

Steele says:

Jeez Jim, I think you left them speechless.

Common sense and the truth always prevail.

Anonymous says:

Steele wrote:
"Common sense and the truth (will) always prevail."

I wholeheartly agree. When the truth about Arpaio`s corrupted ways is exposed in the light. That's when the real law steps in and prevails. And pssst--listen very carefully now....

NOBODY`S ABOVE THE LAW!

Whew....

Deadman Walking says:

That’s funny Steele; you think Jim left everyone speechless? I can bet that is not true as some people, like yourself, must find it necessary to post on here, so along with you, Jim, myself and everyone else, I am sure there are plenty of people who were not left speechless.

Common Sense? LOL... That’s almost funny, especially when I look at you and your friend Keith, or is that your wife’s friend, all playing together, it's almost funny. What is sad is I thought Keith was smarter than that, but I guess now.

JT Ready says:

"We will win this fight in Phoenix, just as we won in the South in the sixties." -Queer Street Underground

That says it all. The racists here in the South West want to do exactly what the racists in the South did. Exterminate the White people. Their zionist agenda to spread crime, filth, disease, ignorance, and poverty are in full swing here today just as in the South in the sixties. And we know the catastrophic result to Dixie Land.

We can already see this here as well with the millions of turd worlders pouring in and decaying large swaths of our once clean and beautiful community. Our Katrina is a tsumani of disease ridden, illiterate, and violent crime prone foreigners swamping our heath care system, pilfering the welfare roles, crowding our correctional facilities, infesting our schools, and destroying our neighborhoods. Our Mayor Ray Nagin is crbon copy Mayor Phil Gordon. And Bush sits back like the idiot that he is just as he did in New Orleans too.

What a fine mess we find ourselves in! The more I learn from history, the more I learn that people do not learn from history.

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