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Witnesses of Carol Anne Gotbaum's arrest allege police brutality.

Wed Oct 03, 2007 at 10:52:09 AM

For anyone who didn't see Anderson Cooper 360 last night, Cooper interviewed two witnesses of Carol Anne Gotbaum's Friday arrest at Sky Harbor Airport, and their accounts were, to say the least, highly disturbing. According to Cooper, Mel Pittel and Paige Harmon called CNN from Hawaii to explain what they saw while at the airport. You can read the full transcript of their interviews, here. (Check about midway down.)

Pittel described Gotbaum's actions as bizarre and obviously distressed. "I saw her laying on the carpeting in the entrance to the concourse," he told Cooper. "Basically just sort of screaming and kicking, but there was nobody around her. It's like she had fallen or had tripped or something was my first impression. It turned out, of course, that she was just laying there."

Pittel said Gotbaum was screaming that she was not a terrorist. "It was a very strange, bizarre situation," he stated. "The police made no effort whatsoever to try to calm her down, though."

Pittel characterized the police response as "excessive":

COOPER: Mel, did you think she was a threat to anyone? I mean, did you feel threatened?

PITTEL: Absolutely not. Absolutely not. She was coherent. She wasn't vulgar. She said -- she was -- she was relatively -- very steady on her feet, actually. She wasn't weaving. She didn't appear to be drunk or anything like that. She just was very demonstrative.

COOPER: You thought the police response was, what, excessive?

PITTEL: Very excessive. They rushed in and grabbed her and threw her down. Nobody ever said anything to her, "lady, hey, calm down. Take a breath. Can I help you? What's wrong?" anything like that.

Witness Harmon described Gotbaum's arrest in more detail:

One of the officers ran towards her and grabbed her, and then the two other officers came up, and they -- one threw her to the ground, and then they -- it was as if they were tackling her. One of them pulled their arm -- her arm behind her with extreme force. I thought that they were going to -- or they had separated her shoulder. It looked very, very forceful.

Anyway, and then they -- in all of this, somebody -- one of the officers leaned down and pressed on her back. And then all of them were on her almost like they did a football tackle hold, and they got the -- they got the handcuffs on her. And then an officer came up to us and said, "move it along. Move it along. This isn't anything for you to witness or for you to see." And so we reluctantly walked away.

Gotbaum was a slight woman, less than 110 pounds according to some accounts. Why was such extreme force necessary, and by so many officers? Can't these big, bad PHX cops take care of a little drunk lady minus the rugby moves? She's lucky they didn't plug her right there for resisting arrest.

If officers tackled her in this manner, you can bet she would've had the wind knocked out of her, and may not have been able to breathe. To those who've offered knee-jerk excuses for the cops on this, what if Gotbaum had been your wife, your daughter, or your sister? Sorry, the po-po are supposed to know how to deal with crazy people without killing them.

This is turning into a real black eye for the PHX PD. No wonder they've stopped answering questions about it. And with ball-bustin' attorney Mike Manning in the corner of the family Gotbaum, Phoenix taxpayers will ultimately pay the price for this eff-up through the eventual settlement or judgement from the lawsuit that we all KNOW is gonna get filed.

Anyway, below are the two statements that have been issued so far from PHX PD spokesman Sgt. Andy Hill. Below that are links to previous posts. More to come as I get it.

Subject: 10/01/07 UPDATE: In Custody death of Ms. Carol Gotbaum in Phoenix - DR#2007-71879515

All: I was finally able to meet with investigators today after a very busy weekend and get some updated information. Thank you for your patience. The initial information is the same but there are some additional and very pertinent information that I want to pass along.

The following was related to me by the investigative supervisor an hour ago:

Ms. Carol Gotbaum was arrested for disorderly conduct after witnesses and officers observed her yelling and screaming on concourse B in terminal 4 at Sky Harbor Airport.

When Ms. Gotbaum was arrested and handcuffed with her hands behind her back she was taken to the holding office in terminal 4 and placed in a holding room. There she was searched but was continuing to be vocally and physically disruptive in the holding room. Ms. Gotbaum was additionally restrained as follows: In the holding room there is a bench with an "eyehook" attached to it. The officers took a "shackle", which is described as a metal chain, approximately 16" long, with a large "handcuff" on each side. The total length of the chain with
handcuffs is approximately 24''. One of the handcuffs on the "shackle" was attached to the "eyehook" on the bench. The other handcuff of the shackle was attached to the chain of the handcuffs that were already on Ms. Gotbaum's hands. So Ms. Gotbaum was handcuffed with her hands behind her back, and additionally those handcuffs were attached to a shackle that kept her attached to the bench.

This is the best we can describe the situation at that point. All of the previous information is still the same with the addition of the information of the shackle. We still do not know how Ms. Gotbaum was able to manipulate the handcuffs to the position she was in. But when she was found her handcuffs were in front and the shackle was still attached to her handcuffs. The chain was not wrapped around her neck. It was pulled against the front of her neck area.

I hope this helps. Again, the Phoenix Police Department is conducting a death investigation. The Medical Examiner's Office will determine cause and manner of death. And the Phoenix Police Department Professional Standards Bureau is conducting an internal investigation, which is standard operating procedure.

I am not planning on doing any further interviews. The information described thus far is the official comment from the Phoenix Police Department.

I will not be releasing any further information until such time as it is available. You are welcome to file public records requests with our Public Records bureau as follows: send an email to:
media.request.pdd@phoenix.gov Please forward this to any of you national and New York outlets or associates as they have all been asking for any updates.

Thank you,
Sergeant Andy Hill
Phoenix Police Department

Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 1:48 PM
Subject: In Custody death at Sky Harbor Airport - DR#2007-71879515

All:

Victim: Gotbaum, Carol Ann; w/f; DOB 12/10/61 (NOK has been notified)

All: The following information is from Phoenix Police investigators. Please note that this is preliminary information subject to change as the investigation continues. The medical examiner will determine cause and manner of death.

As you all know, the Phoenix Police Department responded to a call at terminal 4 in Sky Harbor Airport yesterday at 1449 hours in the B area of the terminal.

According to witnesses Ms. Gotbaum was not able to get on her flight and had an argument with the gate attendant. A number of witnesses told officers Ms. Gotbaum was yelling and screaming and running through the terminal. As two officers responded to the call they confirmed the subject disturbing was Ms. Gotbaum and they contacted her as she was
going past the security checkpoint area back into the terminal. The officers were not able to calm Ms. Gotbaum and eventually arrested her for disorderly conduct. Ms. Gotbaum resisted being handcuffed but the officers were able to take her into custody near the security checkpoint.

Ms. Gotbaum was taken to the police holding room office in terminal 4. A number of police employees were in the holding room office. Ms. Gotbaum was placed in an individual holding room by herself in handcuffs. Ms. Gotbaum was continually screaming while handcuffed in
the holding room. Investigators said Ms. Gotbaum was alone for approximately 5-10 minutes when monitoring officers did not hear her voice any more and went to check on her (Phoenix police policy requires prisoners be checked once every 15 minutes - Operations Order
7.3.2.F.1). At that point officers found her unconscious and not breathing. They called for the Phoenix Fire Department to respond while they tried an AED and CPR to revive her without success. The fire department arrived shortly thereafter. They were not able to revive her. She was pronounced dead at the scene.

According to investigators it appeared as though Ms. Gotbaum had possibly tried to manipulate the handcuffs from behind her to the front, got tangled up in the process, and they ended up around her neck area. She went into medical distress where she lost consciousness. Again,
this is a possible explanation only from investigators and the medical examiner will have to make a determination as to the manner and cause of death.

This is all the information that will be released at this point. This is considered a death unknown at this point by investigators. The investigation is continuing.

Sergeant Andy Hill

For more on the Gotbaum case, see these past entries:

Celebrity pathologist Cyril H. Wecht performs second autopsy on Carol Anne Gotbaum.

Results of Carol Anne Gotbaum's autopsy still pending, Medical Examiner says.

Carol Anne Gotbaum's autopsy under way; NYC Public Advocate Betsy Gotbaum issues statement saying Carol was "manhandled" by PHX cops.

PHX barrister Mike Manning, retained as attorney in the Carol Anne Gotbaum case, calls PHX PD's actions "at first blush, astounding."

WTF? New Yorker Carol Anne Gotbaum, um, "chokes herself to death" at Sky Harbor? UPDATE: Mike Manning hired as Gotbaum family lawyer!


18 Comments:

Joe says:

Keep up the good work Feathered Bastard, as far as I can tell you the only one really reporting on this story in detail at all

Arizona Citizen says:

Great work....since we'll never see the truth in the Arizona Repulsive.

Thanks for championing this victim, a woman who is unable to tell us what happened, courtesy of the brutality or negligence of the PPD. Police have an obligation to protect the public, but their primary concern should be to "do no harm." A screaming woman may be disturbing, but hardly a danger to the public. And as far as comments that this is only getting attention because Gotbaum was "connected"...I would be concerned even if she were a "nobody," as everyone is entitled, under the law to be treated fairly and to not have their lives placed in danger.

Pat Manchack says:

Our "good" citizens need to realize that the police are just doing their jobs. We have a lot of "good" citizens getting tasered because of resisting arrest. Or "good" citizens must learn to observe the law.

Kenneth Hansen says:

It's time people like Ms Gotbaum started takeing responsibilty for there actions. A person of her age throwing a tempertantrum is terrible. Look at the video. The police didn't do anything wrong. If the family sues I hope they get a pile of lawyer fees and not a pennie more.
I guess it's hard to grow up when you can't sober up.

William S. Signs says:

Just doing their jobs?! Doubtlessly Pat Manachak, Kenneth Hansen and other traitors to this country would've thought Adolf Eichmann and the SS were doing their jobs too sixty-odd years ago, or that Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge goons were just doing their jobs, and, as for Saddam Hussein and his thugs, well, hell all those Iraqis and Kurds they tortured, gassed and murdered just needed to grow up and take responsibility for their actions....

No, the ones who need to take responsibility for their actions and their obligations as American citizens more seriously are the Manachaks and Hansens of this country who think excessive force on the part of jackbooted thugs who are supposed to [i]serve the public[/i] is "just doing their jobs."

That attitude is worse, almost, than the actual acts of brutality witnessed in the video, and most assuredly counterproductive to any body of free people.

I have little doubt the usual sarcastic knee-jerk responses will greet this comment, responses made by those who believe the tag lines of the neo-conservative minority and the psuedoliberal minority are more than adequate substitutes for patriotism and the thought it actually requires to behave like a responsible citizen of a democratic nation.

That's fine...I just want all the Manachaks and Hansens and their fellow travelers to do me one small favor.

When the cops they defend come to beat you down, tackle you to the ground like an animal, let you die under highly questionable circumstances whilst in police custody—simply for shits and grins from the looks of things—please, don't come crying to me about it.

They were only doing their jobs.

You should have cooperated with the nice policemen.

And, you needed to grow up and take responsibility for your actions.

Anonymous says:

Mr. Lemons you are a dumbass! When cops appoach a person who appears to be out of control, rather they are male or FEMALE (women kill people too) they must stop that person from hurting the cops and anyone standing around. If I was a cop and I saw some crazy bitch yelling "I'm not a terrorist" at the top of her lungs, in an Airport, I would of have tazered that bitch! Thats like yelling fire on the plane! You just don't do it! I don't care how drunk you are! I am 25 year old a black male, what do you think they would have done to me if I was acting that way in a airport! Dumbass! The broad killed herself... end of story!

Rob Stumpf says:

I support the police as well as anyone, but it's nonsense to say their first reaction should have been to put her in chains. This isn't Nazi Germany, the police here are supposed to serve the public, not impose their will on anyone for any reason. Look at the video...who was she in danger of hurting? And now she's dead. What for? I like how the cops are now bragging they tried to save her with CPR in her cell....maybe you shouldn't have put her in there in the first place, you numbnuts.

Jim says:

The phoenix pd have stated if they thought this woman was unstable or a threat to herself she would not have been left alone.After reading all the interviews and police reports I am wondering how any reasonable person could think that this woman was anything but unstable.

Daisy says:

The airports have become complete police states - all in the name of 'security'. Ms. Gotbaum was attacked by the police precisely because she was NOT a real threat. Had she been a real threat, not one of those Phoenix Neanderthals would have had the guts to put down his donut and do something useful.

Increasingly, the low level employees at airports call for 'security' in order to deal with the fallout from irate passengers due to the airlines greedy and incompetent practices - such as overbooking flights and then denying access to valid passengers. In my book, this amounts to class warfare w/the cops and other bureaucrats winning the war - and - destroying civilization.

Let's not - for a single moment - forget the fact that the police lied and said Ms Gotbaum strangled HERSELF .. with her hands tied behind her back!!!!

Is this the same Phoenix airport that had such criminally lax procedures that undercover news agents went in and exposed the shoddy (criminal?) practices? Could Ms. Gotbaum's death be retaliatory vengeance? Just wondering.

Jenn says:

Police brutality at airports is out of control. Especially when the police beat up and or kill young women and mothers. They never released the brain, heart or neck to the coroner that the family hired. It looks like they choked her to death and are covering it up with a fake story. I have never heard of anyone chocking themselves to death while handcuffed in a holding cell. This is similar to when the police beat up the girl at Reagan National Airport in DC. There needs to be a federal overhaul of police brutality at airports immediately.

R. B. Winslow says:

The real cause of her death may have started back in New York. Any husband that would let his addicted wife fly across the country, alone, on her way to rehab is brutal. That surely had to be a scarey thing for her. No one there in a time of need? No one to offer reassurance or show some compassion? Where were her "loved" ones? What police did, or didn't do, appears trivial compared to the abusive jesture shown by her relatives/friends back in New York.

laura d says:

Give me a break. I am sorry for this woman's death, however:
1. Why in the hell would the "caring" family ever allow such an ill woman to fly without an escort? They (the family) used incredibly poor judgement.
2. This woman caused a scary scene, threw her palm pilot, narrowly missing a passenger, and was screaming and completely out of control, and the POLICE are to blame? Hardly. Look at the video - the police did try talking with her for quite some time and she continued to scream out of control- they DID NOT JUST TACKLE HER
3. This was a natural consequence to HER bad behavior, sick or not, she endangered herself-not the job of the airport police to know all the intricacies to her mental illness. They did a good job with an out of control woman, whom should have had her family there to help her, and now, to alleviate their own guilt, the family is choosing to point the finger at anyone but themselves.

Daisy says:

For all you folks who think the poor police were "just doing their jobs", check this out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Arpaio

This is what Phoenix thinks of the law in this country. They (and the rest of us who don't demand an end to the atrocities taking place in Phoenix) allow cops to behave like Storm Troopers. And before I get accused of being some bleeding heart liberal - know this - I'm Conservative and I voted for both Bushes.

Phoenix airport was covertly filmed for a complete lack of security: http://www.abc15.com/news/local/story.aspx?content_id=568d6b4d-67b7-4116-9098-4c35d8b5ce38

Sky Harbor is the same damned place that has been the "test" airport for the TSA's backscatter X-ray machines - which basically provide a nudie show for all the louts working 'security' in that Hell-hole in the middle of nowhere. .

Was the murder of Carol Ann Gotbaum an act of vengeance by airport cops disgruntled after being exposed for fraudulent security breaches? Why did they ignore security protocol .. what were they passing through a security free zone that they didn't want seen?

Anonymous says:

Her family should have never let her travel by herself. Hubby knew what state of mind she was in. He knew she was off her meds and suicidal. If somebody would have escorted her to the rehab, she'd be alive today.

Anonymous says:

My heart goes out to the family of this woman, especially her children. May they find comfort and peace during this terrible time. God Bless

Anonymous says:

How absurd it seems while everyone is so busy arguing and finger pointing. Have we forgotten she was a human being with a life, family and friends. Are we all so hardened we have no sympathy for her nor her family (children!) What an ugly society!

Artliquide says:

Hey, listen. I'm well aware of the issues with police brutality in this nation, but there were reports that Gottbaum was actually hitting airport employees and passersby. Why shouldn't the police arrest her, even if those accounts are incorrect? She was a threat to everyone in the area due to her clearly volatile behavior, which was evident on the video. As far as the number of cops who responded, why not? For all they knew, some crazy lady was running around threatening people. Psychotic people can be quite strong.

I'm absolutely not in favor of cops strongarming people unecessarily, but I believe that it was necessary in this case.

As far as "they shouldn't have locked her up"...what were they supposed to do?

It's a shame that her family didn't take responsibility for her by accompanying a suicidal alcoholic who was on depression meds. It's typical sue happy mentality to point the finger at someone else when this tragedy could have been avoided had this unstable woman had supervision in the first place. She was a threat to others around her, and the cops did their job by removing the problem so that many others would not be threatened. We can speculate all we want whether she was actually a threat to anyone, but she was running around screaming, possibly hitting people. The risk was removed. That is the police department's job and they did it.

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